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RURAL RACISM?

i wonder if any of you can shed any light on the peculiar and thorny subject of racism in Dorset?

I have lived in this county for over thirty years, and have encountered it on several occasions. What surprises me, is who they are... upstanding folk: farmers, shop keepers, voluntary workers.....is goes like this; a black man crosses the road at the lights and the person in the car sitting next to me says "there are a lot of THEM around these days?".. this is presumably to check out my view... I met a BNP rep on rememerance sunday... only knew this as he had an interesting little badge (enamel furled union jack) and i commented on it.

Well if anyone can help me here? racists or none racists I would be glad to hear? What is IT ALL ABOUT??

Tuzo

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Posted by johunter, on 19-05-2007 11:52,

Is there an existing homebrew/wine circle in West Dorset? Seems like there is enough interest for one. My husband and I are eager to start making our own and would appreciate some advice on the topic.

Posted by Rosieo6, on 19-05-2007 15:45,

I like to think I'm not racist but I do say 'shall we have/go to the chinky tnite' but thats the food or place if it's person who is chinese I always say 'the chinese man/boy etc. When I worked with someone who came from thailand if asked who ..... was, I always said 'the lady with the long dark hair'. Mind you 'them' also gets said about anyone that is different.eg Drug addicts,hippy types,gay people,incomers, vegetarians,legging wearers etc

Posted by shagsack, on 19-05-2007 18:31,

well i suppose to a part time resident feeding those 'rats with wings' might seem like a good idea -(especially when, after inviting them to SKWAWK!!& SHiiite day and night on your roof you sod off to where you really live for 90% of the time -leaving your neighbours with your generous gift)...feeding them is nothing short of moronic and only encourages them to come back again -(this goes for the seagulls too!!)

Posted by shagsack, on 19-05-2007 21:16,

what the?? NURSE!!! -fetch Dr.M would you, and bring meds!!!

Posted by Carlito, on 21-05-2007 11:13,

Anyone remember the Bill Hicks alter-ego ""Goat Boy""? OMG! that was hilarious. That man was a genius. Here's a few quotes (not Goat Boy Quotes...that is too obscene!): “I love the Pope, I love seeing him in his Pope-Mobile, his three feet of bullet proof plexi-glass. That's faith in action folks! You know he's got God on his side.” “No, I don't do drugs anymore, either. But I'll tell you something about drugs. I used to do drugs, but I'll tell you something honestly about drugs, honestly, and I know it's not a very popular idea, you don't hear it very often anymore, but it is the truth: I had a great time doing drugs. Sorry. Never murdered anyone, never robbed anyone, never raped anyone, never beat anyone, never lost a job, a car, a house, a wife or kids, laughed my ass off, and went about my day.” “We all pay for life with death, so everything in between should be free.”

Posted by Grapeivy, on 22-05-2007 17:47,

I would just like to endorse Carlito's views on racism in Dorset and offer an example. Several years ago my mother invited some friends from South Wales to stay with her in West Bay and after meeting them, her brother took me aside to ask whether one of them is ""you know....coloured?"" My uncle is a Dorset farmer and had at that time NEVER met some-one with a naturally darker skin and was, as Carlito suggests, curious. I don't have any problem with people recognising that other people come from other cultures and have originated from different countries, but I do have a problem with those ""others"" not being welcomed or being thought of as any way inferior to our own glorious unsullied West Dorset stock. p.s. The name Carlito has a suspiciously foreign ring to it, are you ""local""?

Posted by Carlito, on 23-05-2007 08:43,

Grapeivy, a might warn you that endorsing any of my views may land you in Tuzo's bad books, but thanks for understanding my point. Tuzo, I believe that Shagsack was referring to Seagulls. How about using your freedom of speech and point the finger at a few individuals in Local Government? I personally don'y pay much attention to the Town Council. They're a lost cause! To me they are Mr & Mrs Overpaid, Mr Curruptable, Mrs Does-Nothing-Accept-Open- Coffee-Mornings, and the Bean-Counter Twins. I must admit I've never seen a Town Councillor be openly racist in any remark or act? Have you witnessed anything specific?

Posted by Rosieo6, on 23-05-2007 15:43,

I haven't heard that rumour.(racism in local government)Would have thought it would be picked up by the papers etc The RNLI can't get funding from national lottery as not enough ethnic minorities are saved in a year, is one that I have heard.

Posted by The Bat, on 23-05-2007 21:30,

Racism is in the eye of the beholder. My two children were recently asked to 'pretend' to be racist to a imaginary black child as a school excerise. I am proud to say that their idea or racially abusing a black person was to comment on the style of pullover they were wearing. It transpired that they were obviously struggling (along with a few other class mates) to understand why someone would be considered odd or different because of the colour of their skin or where they genetically originate from. On the down side, they do struggle understanding the mechanism of an AK47 and explosive bullets :(

Posted by shagsack, on 24-05-2007 09:03,

so tuzo, you do have another bee in your bonnet about something...i suspected that you'd opened this discussion in order to correlate racism and the 'unwelcome feeling' you obviously get here...maybe if you checked your attitude before spouting your ill mannered tripe -you would see your feelings of paranoia & alienation have nothing to do with the colour of your skin. i wasn't born here but i feel i blend in well;RESPECTFULLY. As for rumours of racism in the council? -say whatever it is you've 'heard'-you've got anonymity! ---roofrats are shitehawks by the way. File under Vermin too.

Posted by tuzo, on 25-05-2007 00:23,

The reason I opened the discussion on racism (mr shack) was because i wanted to know what people on this site thought.. plus i half hoped we might hear from people who had been victims of it. Just before the last local elections I was in coversation with one of the candidates (who was later elected) and he told me that two other candidates, both women and both black had had thier application papers mysteriously ""disappeared"".....he (my friend) is looking into it. I hope the people who know what i am talking about are reading this, for they (unlike me) know who they are. By the way(shack) I dont feel unwelcome paranoid alienated.. should I? seems like a lot of hard work really, and the attitude checking... how on earth do you do that?Do you stand in front of a mirror? Vermin? so passe......whats that anyway except a creature who is after something you want?? blah blah.. I loved the school story mr bat.. great kids, and great hope for the future.. and as for the colour of my skin.. ahh well, you will just have to guess...

Posted by Carlito, on 25-05-2007 15:26,

Interesting how you are the first person to make an issue out of the colour of your own skin Tuzo. Why would you assume that we would be interested in guessing what shade you are? Do you want to start a new poll? Does it matter to you that much? And no Tuzo, you don't check your attitude in a mirror. If you're incapable of checking your own attitude through the usual method of self-awareness, then I suggest you rely entirely on the opinions of others. What would you prefer?

Posted by shagsack, on 25-05-2007 15:41,

didnt really expect you to understand my comments,and have nothing further to say to you.But-you should look up vermin in the dictionary though because, well, you just should! SHAGSACK

Posted by shagsack, on 25-05-2007 16:00,

...by the way you could get along with everyone that matters in this town even if you had BLUE skin, it would'nt be an issue! you would be judged on your personality/attitude as a first impression. . . Oh well, at least you've got your rats and 'pal' realworld to keep you company...is he back yet by the way?, the bank-holiday bandit that he is.

Posted by Rosieo6, on 27-05-2007 10:33,

Rumour 1- not heard Rumour 2- Not heard(didn't know there was anyone influential in Powerstock!) Rumour 3- had heard this and a few other big houses besides. Rumour 4- Something to do with man losing his foot? Rumour 5- 'YOU CAN NOT BE SERIOUS!'(does this include anyone who posts as well?)

Posted by The Bat, on 28-05-2007 20:34,

I think racism is wrong because of the people who treat people differently because of their colour or race, and because of the the people who accuse people of being racist because of their colour and race. I have never experienced racism. If because of that statement you presume that I am white, ... does that make you a racist?

Posted by dizza, on 29-05-2007 07:22,

Im not saying nothing...........

Posted by Carlito, on 29-05-2007 15:40,

No...it doesn't make you racist. Let's develop a pyschometric racism test: 1. Half Empy or Half Full? 2. Suni or Mooni? 3. Stalin or Hitler? 4. AK47 or Semtex? If you answered 'Zeig Heil' to any of the above, and your best mate says you're a bastard then...you're a racist man called Bernard and prefer Bison to Yaks. Blah Blah Blah...no one here is racist everybody so let's stop trying to rat each other out and move on. END OF THREAD.

Posted by The Bat, on 29-05-2007 20:47,

Possibly only a racist would use that predictable END OF THREAD tactic, ................. or would they?

Posted by Bentley, on 02-06-2007 15:14,

I have worked and travelled extensively in Africa and have been the victim of racism on many occasion. I have been threatened with machine guns, pistols and machetes and that was by the police and a customs official while trying to get into a country with a correct visa but unprepared to hand over any cash for the privilege. That sort of racism is driven by poverty and anger at the white skinned man (although this now include the Indians and Chinese) being involved in the systematic pillaging of Africa’s natural resources. I have seen racism at work in Bridport fuelled purely by ignorance and parental programming. Some people (who should know better) still think it is alright to pepper their conversation with words like paki, nigger and wog and then say ""but I am not racist"" You have to make a stand and ask them what century they are living in as it is not alright. If you allow someone in your company to use words like this without questioning them then you are aiding and abetting their racist behaviour, You too are guilty by association, or by your inaction. To protest is to live, only dead fish drift with the tide When are the great (sic) British people going to realise that we ""ARE"" a multi racial society. Just research the history of our country to understand that we are a real mix and match ragbag of genes.

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