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BRING BACK FAGS

I was all in favour of the smoking ban, but it is rubbish. Poor old pubs - will they survive this?

Sitting round a table drinking, smoking and talking crap is an very important British tradition - also Im very good at it!!

Fine, ban smoking in public places, but give non-food serving pubs the choice.

Far as I can tell most folk are stopping at home -smoking loads of fags and missing their mates.

check out the link man smokingbanstinks.co.uk

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Posted by Jammie Dodger, on 23-01-2008 08:42,

I think the smoking ban actually brings people together. Think about the amount of people from all walks of life, who wouldn't have even bothered talking to each other before. Now they all have something in common. I've seen some very unlikely friendships formed over a fag in the freezing cold. That can only be good. And my clothes and hair don't stink when I get back from the pub!

Posted by Rustic, on 24-01-2008 00:16,

Question, Do you smoke? Answer, Yes. Result, You smell. If as a smoker you find the new clean air atmosphere of pub to much to bear, then stay at home. You are yesterdays people, life has moved on.

Posted by Carlito, on 24-01-2008 10:19,

As much as I appreciate the saving on washing powder after a good night out, the atmosphere of THE PUB, is pretty damn far from clear! Smells that were always there before are somehow more prominent without the mask of smoke to hide them. E.g. REALLY bad B.O., cheap industrial disinfectant, people who don't dry their washing properly and hence stink of damp washing, smelly feet, bad breath (rotting flesh bad breath, not just ashtray breath), stale beer and chip fat. Laaavley.

Posted by Rustic, on 24-01-2008 17:02,

Carlito, it could just be the people you hang out with who are smell that bad, however thinking about it, if you spend half your time in the pub stood outside in the smoking bit then the inside bit does get a bit wiffy, your right. It is strange to note how much more of an ANTI SOCIAL ""addiction"" smoking has proved itself to be since the introduction of the ban. Picture this, there are a few of you sat round a table drinking and chatting away, you are engrossed in a particularly juicy nougat of conversation when out of the blue the addict says ""just popping out for a fag"" and removes his/herself from the social throng. They come back in after about 5 minutes and the conversation has already moved on leaving the sad addict to play catch up. It is not only the rudeness of walking out midway through a social intercourse, but, on their return they stink. It is akin to sitting at a busy dinner table announcing that you will not take part in any of the conversation for 5 minutes and at the end of it will release a gut churning fart. Charming!!

Posted by Carlito, on 25-01-2008 08:36,

How true, yes it is rude. Mobile phone answering is rude too...Hmm...perhaps if on departing for a cigarette the smoker returned with a new round of drinks, it would appear far less rude. Not sure where you drink Rustic but if everyone in my local left for a smoke at the same time the pub would be left with four awkward looking people standing in the middle of the room with enough room to swing a hippo. Often with a group of chums there'll be the smoking domino effect. Someone starts rolling, the rest notice and start getting on their coats, and before you know it, the one non-smoker is left to fend for themselves inside or is forced (out of social pressure) to don their overalls and join the kamekazes outside for some fresh air.

Posted by nurse, on 25-01-2008 21:09,

I’m a nurse don’t you know!! I spent my professional life advising people on positive health choices…. don’t smoke, put your legs up, stop eating lard, drink more water etc etc: I can say hands on heart that largely my good meaning advise falls on deaf ears. Some times very deaf ears HAVE YOU HAD YOUR BOWELS OPENED………. any way I digress. Point is people are sick to death of being told what to do. The smoking ban wont stop smokers and there is a plenty of evidence to suggest that making an activity illicit serves only to make it more attractive. Surely there is middle ground here… how about ONE smoking pub in Bridport, would it be the busiest joint in town?

Posted by Rustic, on 26-01-2008 16:41,

Oh Nurse, I wouldn't mind not doing the things you tell me, you see from a male perspective thats where the Nurse advice thing fails, we know that what you are saying probably makes perfect sense but what we are thinking is ""phwooooar, I wonder if she has got sussys on under that uniform"" Sad but true. On another slightly more freudian note it would seem that you are up for a bit of naughty, legs up in the air, lard, bowel open, ciggerete!!!!! sounds like a sweedish film I watched the other day.

Posted by Jammie Dodger, on 28-01-2008 11:46,

Rustic - I do not smoke, so there. Don't be so bleeding judgemental.

Posted by nurse, on 28-01-2008 13:11,

Rustic, you dirty devil, how dare you reduce my noble profession to a Blue Carry On… you need to be thinking Hattie not Babs,,, No stockings here - but a heavily reinforced woolly gusset.

Posted by Morning Loves It, on 29-01-2008 15:05,

Is The George open yet? There's pub somewhere in the West Country and the landlord has bought an old railway carriage and installed it in his pub garden for Smokers Only. In a london pub in the summer and the pub garden had been divided into two areas - one smoking and one non-smoking. There were non-smokers filling up the smoking area and smokers were objecting to having to sit in the non-smoking area. It got a bit unpleasant.

Posted by Carlito, on 29-01-2008 16:07,

The George is open. With a 10 x 6 foot Union Flag hanging from the ceiling and another one out front. Hmm...either they're very patriotic or there's somthing more sinister afoot! The lighting in there was like a gentelmen's club...very dim and lots of little lamps shades. They've also taken to writing the menu across any wooden surface available, in chalk. Atmosphere was good for an end-of-the-weekend pint or two.

Posted by Rustic, on 29-01-2008 17:00,

So the decors a bit odd with its patriotic stance however what’s the bar crew and new landlord like? Do they know how to greet someone and make them feel welcome in the pub?? I haven't had a chance to pop in yet however anything would be an improvement on the last sad sack excuse as a landlord/landlady. HANG On A Minute!! this is a Fag thread and here we are discussing a pub with no chance of addicts being able to get their fix of nicotine in a private garden without having to stand three feet from the traffic, who as they drive by are probably thinking ""look at those sad gits, how desperate have you got to be to harm yourself to have to stand out there"". Despite my judgmental, factual and accurate musings about nicotine addiction the pure fact is that smoking belongs in a pub, not outside on the pavement. People, citizens, the voting adult public, should be able to make an informed and free choice to either use a non smoking pub and take the alcohol drug in a clean air environment or chose to use a more traditional way of imbibing i.e. in a smoke and sputum filled environment, I know which one I prefer.

Posted by Morning Loves It, on 29-01-2008 19:14,

Thanks for the upate on the George Carlito. Imagining Chalk Menus On Wooden Surfaces and Union Flags. Alright Rustic (12) I understand this is a Fag Thread and I went off-topic. If the atmosphere, ambience, wafting odours of good food, excellent landlord, special bar-crew can make the smoker captivated and forget they may need another intake of nicotine in the New George and not search for a smoking place then I can't wait to visit. I would prefer that to the smell of stale cooking, damp dog and Domestos. If it makes me feel I wish I'd stayed at home in a smoke and sputum filled atmosphere then that's what I'll do.

Posted by tuzo, on 30-01-2008 01:57,

The flag was a surprise, and i noticed the the flag of st george at the back too, a little daunting.. did not manage to find out why they were there... although i met the landlord and landlady, both quite charming (one regular suggested the landlord was a touch ""Manderish?) interesting bar snack garlic bread(little heavy on the oil and potato wedges, always a little weary of these snacks, for reasons we have all heard about... smoking? well its back to the street, with all the charm of new conversations with new people. I dont much worry I will be missing the conversations i have left at the table, its usually moved on anyway by the time we all get back.... and that can be a mrecy when you think of it?

Posted by Pymore Goat, on 30-01-2008 07:41,

But where is the blackboard reminding us that on this day 'film actor Errol Flynn was born and Houdini crossed the Niagra Falls in a barrel' ?

Posted by Draino, on 30-01-2008 07:43,

Why are people surprised at seeing the Union Flag? Is it because we should all be ashamed of it? Or that we should be scared of some ridiculous fatwā? I am proud to see it, although I'd rather see it billowing majestically outside than covering a tar stained ceiling. BTW the Georges stained ceiling was painted on by an interior decorator, not by the time honoured way of smoking loads of fags. The George is looking good, the landlord is an entertaining chap and they have, sofar avoided the ""stale cooking, damp dog and domestos"" (and god forbid citrus potpourri plug in air freshener) syndrome that many pubs have fallen foul of since the ban.

Posted by Morning Loves It, on 30-01-2008 08:26,

I believe the nicotine stained ceiling is an actual Pub Wallpaper made to look like it had always been there when The George had the last make-over. Very Manderish indeed. I've chatted to people in smoking areas that I would never have met otherwise. And I get far more fresh air than I used to.

Posted by Carlito, on 30-01-2008 08:28,

Draino. Being openly proud of being British, isn't very British. Mainly because flag-flying as a matter of course, rather than as a celebration, is rather extravert, and Britishness thrives on the understatement and the introvert. Flying-flags is a form of communication (let's exclude the USA and their wierd fetish for their flag - it's NOT British). It either communicates that the area in which the flag is flying has been conquered and is under new rule, or it communicates a warning to others that you are in someone's territory. Assuming that the George wasn't German before, and has been recently part of a war where the British have won, then this flag-flying is therefore sinister and quite frankly wierd. King George III may well have been the first Hanoverian King to be born in England, but every drop of his blood is German. Do the new owners feel they are conquering enemy territory? Face it Draino, it's odd...and ""odd"" where it comes to flag flying, is a bit creepy. Still, I'll be going in there anyhow. They all seem like nice people, and to be honest I believe in ""innocent until proven guilty"". Oh and as a footnote; the George's ceiling WAS nicotine brown from the nicotine originally, and following a refurb about 8/9 years ago, it was rewallpapered and repainted. The ceiling used to be smooth and you could actually see where concentrated areas of nicotine had formed into small drips. I get the feeling that the decorators may have just painted over that with a similar colour with more texture, to give the same effect. Blimey can anyone remember when they changed the bar? That was almost 20 years ago!

Posted by Draino, on 30-01-2008 09:09,

...(Carlito 18) They also hung the wallpaper upside down in ""The deep end"" as a homage to the original mistake. Back on topic: beer and fags go together like birds of a feather, although I'm glad to be spending more time outside, I like to have a pint in t'other hand, so pubs without beer gardens/smoking areas may feel the pinch first. Rule Brittania!

Posted by nurse, on 30-01-2008 12:27,

Now they are going to ban patio heaters, lets just take the Publicans outside and give them a good kicking! Its the end of an era - West Dorset Pubs will soon either be shut or full of people like my parents eating food in silence and going home to bed at 9pm (NB I do take global warming seriously - but the only real solution here is to ban Americans)

Posted by Bentley, on 30-01-2008 18:17,

Ok Ok so it’s not fags, but flags is close enough. Well said Carlito about the rather weird, jingoistic fixation that some people have to an oblong of colored cloth. We have nothing to be proud of about the Union flag because, as Carlito eloquently points out, it stands for conquest, domination, oppression and the imposition of our ancestors values and beliefs on people who would have been better off without them. The fact it is called a ""Union"" flag is a rather sick joke in itself as it is supposed to represent the unity between England, Scotland and Wales and yet the reality is that the jocks hate the English, always have and always will, and the welsh would rather not have them as neighbors. The English for their part tolerate their heathen brethren with ill disguised contempt, much as you would when observing someone else’s badly behaved child. (but then again that’s the English for you) The flag, the nonsensical pomp and circumstance that goes with it, the queen, the forelock tugging “gawd bless ‘er” types and all the associated tosh should be returned to where it belongs, the history books. I haven’t had the opportunity to visit my old local yet and will reserve personal judgment till then. (ps did you know that if you look up “slavery” on Word Thesaurus: English (US) it doesn’t find any results, strange that from a country that was formed on it)

Posted by goccibos, on 31-01-2008 07:30,

(20) patio heaters; they are just another waste of money gadget for the ""keeping up with the jones's"" types that will soon be religated to the back of garden sheds! (21) flags; I struggled with Englishness for many years but drew peace with myself and gave up worrying...we should just get on with it and work together! oh and fags; a bit like the lyric ""the sadest thing I ever saw.."" was people siting on a bench outside the B&B shivering, smoking, staring at mucky poo square....why? where is the joy in that? (PS gave up years ago, now I'm an ""only when very very drunk"" smoker)

Posted by tuzo, on 31-01-2008 10:39,

both the Nepalese flag and Bhutans flag,are quite splendid, and I believe the national policies in Bhutan are based on whether or not it makes people happy... oh bliss, they voted against traffic lights as they made people irritated. Smoking outside pubs? I think its ok, I smoke, the hope and anchor seem to have handle on comfort for us sufferers. Tobacco sales? i think there is no change there?

Posted by andy head, on 31-01-2008 16:28,

Feel free to send me suggested designs for a dorset flag at peers@bridportradio.co.uk - if there's any good un's I'll make up a couple on my next flag run. Hopefully the Ed will postup all designs under a topic that says flag not fag - don't want to flog flagging whilst all this fag flagellation is going on.

Posted by Jammie Dodger, on 01-02-2008 18:40,

Dorset Flag? ""OOH ARRH, OOH ARHH""

Posted by Jammie Dodger, on 01-02-2008 18:53,

Well said Morning Loves It. My point exackerly. Re. flags. When it comes to 'em, there is only one worldwide recognised flag, and that is one that be's attached to the mast of a poirate ship. Used to conjure up fear and dread. Let's 'av one o' them instead. Make it a poirate pub. For uz poirates. Then we can smoke wherezever we wants.

Posted by Pymore Goat, on 03-02-2008 12:42,

I have wondered why there doesn't seem to be a Dorset flag - Devon & Cornwall are awash with their respective ensigns. After a bit of research, it seem that a chap called Stephen Coombs has attempted to get the ball rolling. Just go to Wikipedia and type in 'Dorset Flag' - all will be explained.

Posted by Pymore Goat, on 04-02-2008 08:16,

More flag debate: Dorset Flag Debate

Posted by Inn the cold, on 07-02-2008 22:06,

Hi, I noticed some traffic from a link on your site, many thanks. (smokingbanstinks.co.uk) You might be interested in my other site and tour- 90 days and 1000 pubs, to highlight the economic effects of the smoking ban. www.innthecold.com

Check out his site and give him some $upport - Ed

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